Tentative Hole Distances for the New Course

[ross]

Below are the tentative hole distances (in feet) for the new GG Park Disc Golf course. Hole lengths were measured by shortest air distance through primary fairway -- i.e., doglegs were measured along the inside edge of primary fairway rather than a straight line from tee to basket.

Some of these may change slightly but not too much. Thanks to Leonard, Kim and Eric for doing this.

Hole 1:
A Pin 239
B Pin 243
C Pin 294

Hole 2:
A Pin 185
B Pin 206
C Pin 209

Hole 3:
A Pin 311
B Pin 348
C Pin 374

Hole 4:
A Pin 243
B Pin 252
C Pin 282

Hole 5:
A Pin 303
B Pin 368
C Pin 405

Hole 6:
A Pin 271
B Pin 304
C Pin 319

Hole 7:
A Pin 285
B Pin 331
C Pin 374

Hole 8:
A Pin 283
B Pin 291
C Pin 296

Hole 9:
A Pin 205
B Pin 245
C Pin 252

Hole 10:
A Pin 279
B Pin 295
C Pin 296

Hole 11:
A Pin 237
B Pin 295
C Pin 300

Hole 12:
A Pin 259
B Pin 364
C Pin 415

Hole 13:
A Pin 198
B Pin 229
C Pin 238

Hole 14:
A Pin 286
B Pin 286
C Pin 369

Hole 15:
A Pin 327
B Pin 383
C Pin 393

Hole 16:
A Pin 251
B Pin 274
C Pin 289

Hole 17:
A Pin 328
B Pin 357
C Pin 441

Hole 18:
A Pin 302
B Pin 391
C Pin 395

Total Distance to A: 4,792

Total Distance to B: 5,492

Total Distance to C: 6,021

Course record predictions for 2007 from Leonard:
singles:
- A position: 41
- B position: 46
- C position: 49

doubles:
- A position: 38
- B position: 43
- C position: 46

[pepe]

no way in hell anyone scores a 41 on this course in 2007.

[pepe]

no way in hell anyone scores a 41 on this course in 2007.

My guess is that the record will be in the 45-46 range.

[ross]

I dunno -- there are a number of Club members who have not been at the work parties. If they've been playing up at Novato or Berkeley instead of digging holes anything is possible

[pepe]

the way we "ripped it" on 5 the other day lends itself to the idea that a 41 is not only possible, but probably a commonality out there.

[pepe]

Leonard, can you spend the next work party finding out elevation differences for all of the holes while the rest of us toil with *caca* labor? Thanks man.

[ross]

the way we "ripped it" on 5 the other day lends itself to the idea that a 41 is not only possible, but probably a commonality out there.

Do you mean 41 over?

[Leonard]

re: measurements and elevation differences. my elevation device isn't working well, so i don't have that info. but i did guestimate the difference between how far a hole measures and how far it plays -- accounting for elevation change, fairway ceiling/height, technical (curvy) flights, wind (not much), skippy greens (rare), etc.

Hole 1:
A Pin 239 / 249 (plays 10 feet further than it measures)
B Pin 243 / 258
C Pin 294 / 319

Hole 2:
A Pin 185 / 190
B Pin 206 / 211
C Pin 209 / 209

Hole 3:
A Pin 311 / 311
B Pin 348 / 348
C Pin 369 / 374

Hole 4:
A Pin 243 / 208
B Pin 252 / 217
C Pin 282 / 272

Hole 5:
A Pin 303 / 308
B Pin 368 / 368
C Pin 405 / 410

Hole 6:
A Pin 271 / 296
B Pin 304 / 349
C Pin 319 / 324

Hole 7:
A Pin 285 / 275
B Pin 331 / 341
C Pin 374 / 369

Hole 8:
A Pin 283 / 288
B Pin 291 / 281
C Pin 296 / 276

Hole 9:
A Pin 205 / 195
B Pin 245 / 230
C Pin 252 / 242

Hole 10:
A Pin 279 / 289
B Pin 295 / 305
C Pin 296 / 306

Hole 11:
A Pin 237 / 237
B Pin 295 / 290
C Pin 300 / 325

Hole 12:
A Pin 259 / 274 (may increase)
B Pin 364 / 394
C Pin 415 / 465

Hole 13:
A Pin 198 / 208
B Pin 229 / 239
C Pin 238 / 248

Hole 14:
A Pin 286 / 286
B Pin 286 / 286
C Pin 369 / 369

Hole 15:
A Pin 327 / 307
B Pin 383 / 378
C Pin 393 / 368

Hole 16:
A Pin 251 / 281
B Pin 274 / 304
C Pin 289 / 339

Hole 17:
A Pin 328 / 298
B Pin 357 / 327
C Pin 441 / 411

Hole 18:
A Pin 302 / 272
B Pin 391 / 366
C Pin 395 / 395

Total Distance to A: 4,792 / 4,772

Total Distance to B: 5,462 / 5,492

Total Distance to C: 5,936 / 6,021

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re: course records...

remember that a course record will probably be set by great player(s) having a great day. it's not typical. for more typical scores, here are my ratings.

Pro (PDGA player rating: 1000)*
A: 46.7
B: 52.4
C: 55.6
* average score by pro rated 1000 is basis for course SSA rating (Scratch Scoring Average)

Amateur (PDGA player rating: ~925)
A: 55.3
B: 60.7
C: 64.6

Recreational (PDGA player rating: ~850)
A: 62.5
B: 68.5
C: 73.3

[pepe]

my elevation device isn't working well

sorry to hear that...

guess that's what happens when you get older!

I have a GPS if that would help with more accurate readings.

[Matt_Kelly]

Are photos of the tee signs that show the actual locations of the baskets online somewhere?  I've looked around a bit, but I don't see them.  If no, I'll try and shoot some pictures next weekend and post them.

BTW: I Love the new course.  I'm truly blown away by the tough pin positions and I've really enjoyed the back 9.

MK

[hrc333]

Not yet...

We have a course walk through in the works but it will be a few weeks before it is up online.