out of bounds

[pepe]

this is a topic that I don't have a definitive opinion on, nor do I know the official PDGA rules, but I think that we should discuss because at some point, if it hasn't happened already, someone's going to get pissed off about whether or not a disc is in bounds or out.

We have stones on many holes that denote OB. The question is, how do we interpret them? On hole 5, it has always been the path that is out. But where, exactly does the path begin and in bounds end? The stones are not set right on the path. On 15/16, the stones mark the "edge" of marx meadow. But the grass is not cut all the way to the stones. If a disc lands outside the stones but in rough grass, is it in bounds?

We need a definitive OB rule that is consistent course-wide. What do you all think?

[Orion]

The areas around the paths ways are easy enough to make a call on but the pine forest on #15 is sort of a grey area, as well as the medow on #16.

[hrc333]

This may not be official but here is a little background of the OB markers.

We have always played and planned for OB to be the path.  When we went to place the OB markers, we were told that they could not be on the path line because this was to close to allow vehicles to pass on the path.  So we moved the OB markers in but planned to still play the path as OB as well.

As for the meadow, the same situation comes up.  Because of mowing we can not put them on the exact mow line.  Therefore the meadow rocks are like the path rocks in that they are located off of the actually line of OB.

As for the trees to the left of 15, the stone are located between the big trees that are the actual line for OB.  They are technically on the line.  

So in Summary:
The path is OB not the rocks on 2,3,4,5,13,14,15,17 & 18.
The meadow cut line is OB on 11,15 & 16.
The rocks mark the OB line of the trees on 14,15 & 16.  

When we play the Safari there will be rope hung to mark this so there is no confusion there.

[pepe]

The areas around the paths ways are easy enough to make a call on but the pine forest on #15 is sort of a grey area, as well as the medow on #16.

not always. I've seen discs land on a small patch of grass on hole 5 that is completely surrounded by sand and looks to be on the edge of the path, and people are like, "it's in!", despite looking out to me.

Perhaps we can keep the rope lines in after the safari as the official OB markers.

[hrc333]

The ropes will be considered trip hazards and will need to be removed.  Sorry

[boston93430]

I usually play the trees on 15 ob from the first path to 17, follow the nets along the rocks, up to the far path that loops up.  Is this how it was meant to be?  That's how it looks on the tee sign.